>> well, you know, we'll see how long. mi i mean, i think once you push up against the debt limit it becomes more problematic. >> october 17th. next week. >> i think that's when you're going to see more, you know, more pressure on him to do something. but i think that one of the issues, you go back to 2011, is that what happened there was that we ended up with the sequester, which right now is what democrats are arguing is a concession that they're giving to republicans and saying just pass the c.r. at the sequester levels. so i think one of the problems is that democrats are making two arguments that are cutting against each other. on the one hand, they're saying just pass a clean c.r. and we'll negotiate with you when the reason that they have the c.r. at that level in the first place is that they held out and took things to the brink on the debt limit in 2011. that's the only way that