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Be made. that that lies the middle ground and that is our task as representatives to get to that middle ground to work across the aisle and just imagine what we could do if we really worked together. it can happen and it will happen. >> shannon: it would be encouraging i know to americans regardless of party across the country. the president has taken some criticism for not getting more involved in this. do you think that there would be some benefit in him showing leadership and going to the hill and being in the room as hammer itdes try to hampster out? >> ternly not in the next 200 hours. he...

Layoffs and these are good jobs. defense industry jobs tend to be really good ones. it is hard to get any job anywhere near as good and also that is more of the industrial base going away so it will be harder to recover from the sequester. >> how much would it diminish u.s. military power. >> again, secretary of defense panetta said it is unprecedented. it is unprecedented for a commander in chief to suggest sign and defend cuts in the defense budget that his own secretary of defense says are going to be devastating and without any military analysis to justify them. it is breathe takingly irre...

You experience in virginia? >> i think it was a lot more local. nationalizing was about getting past some of the name calling in washington, more practical results. but you did see allen trying to nationalize the sequestration issue on defense cuts saying this was governor cain who had supported that and it was kang russ f dangerous for the state. >> we talked about ann romney's comments and they really struck you. you just interviewed both mitt romney and ann romney. you had come away with the same impression that she's -- this is getting to her a little bit. >> any spouse feels the pain of t...

[ cheers and applause ] >> for the last couple of weeks, he's been aggressively going after president obama for the sequestration issue, the idea that the fiscal cliff hits come next year and instant massive defense cut also kick in automatically. romney says he doesn't think that's a good policy. he think the president should do something to stop it and he would. all very aggressive and in part, gregg, because the romney was in the tight water of virginia beach, heavy, heavy, populated with military families, active and retired. a huge part of their economy down there. with the job numbers ye...

The country that are postponed are enormous. >> all right congressman, thank you very, very much. and for you folks back home. i don't mean to get preachy. i am all green on this stuff. and not red and blue. and you are told a load of stuff on the sequestration issue. neither party means what it said. it is led by the speaker of the house and is not following through on the commitment and if you blow the deal and you just let this money grow and you don't address it with a new deal of equal or more cuts, you have made a sham of the process and you would reemphasize the process to taxpayers a...