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With congress and impeachment, it kind of works to his political advantage here that their constantly talking about it. >> and all of that with the caveat we're still more than 200 days out from iowa and hundreds of days out from the actual election itself. thanks to serrage, evan, tiffany. thank you. hang in there. and according to the poll by the black economic alliance, it is the economy that will drive black voters in 2020. and joining me now is spencer overton, president of the joint center for political and economic studies. thank you so much for being here. so what do you want to hear...

Of whom have much stronger support among white than black voters down here seeking out anywhere to go to get the message out there and also anywhere to go to listen, to start looking like they are dialed into the issues and carrying about them in a substantive way and not just coming down here to speech-ify. >> and they're not conceding that end of the voting block at all to many of the other candidates. because as you mentioned their polling very low amongst black voters. thanks to garrett haake in charleston, south carolina. i want to bring in the panel, serrage pashme from the washington ex...

The first night with elizabeth warren. it is good for elizabeth warren if she could get good sound bites out of that. but you have bill de blasio with her. is that an adult table? no. come on. let's be honest. the debate should be -- should be an undercard kids table jv debate of five people and then the top five of polls and now 20-person over two-night debate that is five minutes for all of the candidates to get their message out and ale they'll do is get a sound bite or avoid becoming the sound bite. >> and it is dizzying as you take a look at political coachella lineup night one and two an...

There is still time. beto is on the stage. >> if he doesn't land this debate, his campaign is done. let's be honest. >> that could go for many people. but i want to pivot quickly as we talk to you, serrage, because we did obtain or abc news obtained the internal polling from trump's campaign showing that he's losing in a number of battle ground states. the president at first said that is not the case and then the paperwork came out. should this president be worried right now? >> well, the main thing he has to worry about are maintaining the economy and obviously not getting into any wars. thos...