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Into a wire tap situation or a fisa situation. so it surprises me that this happened given the level of importance in this case and the level of management at the fbi and the department of justice going all the way down to the agents who were involved in writing that fisa. >> but it also gives fuel to the critics here. tim, there is no question that comey has been one of the most polarizing figures in politics to date. i'm wondering, are you surprised that comey wasn't as hands on with this as he was with the hillary clinton email server investigation. how do you think history is going to reme...

Us and then he talks about, you know, crowd strike, this whole essentially conspiracy theory about the server being in ukraine, and then also about finding dirt on the bidens, does that not on its face seem wildly inappropriate? does that seem like a quid pro quo to you? >> well, it's inappropriate. it's bothersome, and it's especially bothersome to talk about the server, which our intelligence services have continued to say didn't exist. >> and mick mulvaney his admission, i mean, he didn't use the words quid pro quo but when asked by jonathan carl he said, yeah, we do this all the time, and ...

You don't turn down a job you weren't offered. he turned down the attorney general job without having been offered it. and i can imagine rudy saying that guy is never going to be my secretary of state, which is what trump did. >> and does that mean you think he's also lost his fastball. >> he lost something off the fastball. that's for sure. it's not '93 anywhere. >> ken, stay with me. i want to come back to you in a moment. but because this is a special, we have some different angels. the whole impeachment probe centers on the efforts to hijack foreign policy to go after foreign rivaling. the...

He lacked candor were the specific words in the interviews with the inspector general. and this has to go back to -- we're going back several years now, hallie. inspector general's report into leaks, into the handling of the clinton e-mail server investigation. a possibility of a second investigation involving the clinton foundation. and in the course of that investigation, just to give you a sense of what the inspector general found, found that andy mccabe picked up the phone and called the assistant director of the fbi, bill sweeney, and complained about leaks coming from the fbi field offic...

Hearing that took place. the focus will turn on subpoenas issued to the trump administration and not calling jim comey for more marathon closed-door sessions. jillian: he was outspoken in that interview. what did you make of what he said? >> he was invited as a former fbi director to answer questions and it seems he has a personal vendetta to try to bring down the presidency of donald trump. my view, i know jim comey from my time at doj, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. this is a guy who had no problem violating protocols when it came to make decisions to open and close...