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States that didn't want obamacare money. >> wait a minute. if you look at that map, don, what it is showing the wealthier states with higher per capita income states like new york and connecticut and california are going to lose money relatively and the poorer states that have more poor people are going to get more money. but look, i think again you are missing the point. if these states -- we've had a couple of experiments where we allowed states to have these block grants where we said here is your set amount of money. go out and find ways to provide coverage for people and save money. rhode...

Governor and he says he's on board. even though this plan would more than doubled the number of people without insurance in the state of arizona. and then there are a lot of questions about the matter of principle on mccain's part. the big thing to me is -- and this goes back to what you were talking about, jesse. let's say it happens. what's the response? you talk about a soft off-ramp for people. the reality is it does away with a lot of the protections, the consumer protections. pre-existing conditions. it damages -- it does away with a lot. >> kennedy: it actually does not. >> juan: import...

>> jesse: expansion. >> juan: know, a set amount of money. a block ramp to the state. and in the state puts different rules in place, to your point. they can do away with other things. that's where all of a sudden, i think there is no soft off-ramp. there's going to be an explosion of anger. >> dana: we will just encourage. >> kennedy: there already is the implosion of obamacare. it is heartless and cruel to keep this. >> juan: you can't say that to more than 50% of americans who support obamacare. >> dana: we will continue to talk about this over the course of the week. go online and see how ...

>> juan: no, a set amount of j money. a block grant to the state. and in the state puts different rules in place, to your point. they can do away with other things. that's where all of a sudden, ia think there is no soft off-ramp. there's going to be an explosion of anger. >> dana: we will just encourage. >> kennedy: there already is the implosion of obamacare. it is heartless and cruel to keep this. >> juan: you can't say that to more than 50% of americans who support obamacare. >> dana: we will continue to talk about this over the course of the week. go online and see how you feel about both...

Health care as i know it. >> we're in a situation where you've got lawmakers working on this bill and the president did go out on the campaign trail and say, i'm not going to cut medicaid, your premiums aren't going to go up and drug prices are going to go down and everyone will be covered. promises have been made and americans have expectations. >> if you remove the mandate to buy insurance, a lot of things will happen, people now use the common sense and they'll spend money where it needs to be spent. >> right in and out insurance companies get a set amount of money and they have no -- there...