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Biggest driver of the future debt. >> ryan laid out his plan to have private insurance companies compete for business of seniors with the government paying a set amount of the cost which is called premium support. but congressional budget office says when the plan takes effect in 2020, even with the government contribution, seniors would have to pay $6,400 out of pocket but ryan says he would give poor people $7800 to cover expenses. >> we say since only so much money can go around, don't subsidize wealthy people as much as everybody else and give the lower income people more money. >> they fo...

With a lot of older voters. are you prepared to stand up to them and say, sorry, folks, we've got to do this? because a lot of republicans think this is handing something to the democrats that will be potent against republicans. >> the ryan plan doesn't cut medicare, it actually increases funding to it and the only people that have voted to cut medicare supported obamacare, which cut trillions out of medicare and is using it to fund a science experiment somewhere outside of medicare. the only people who voted to cut medicare spending are the people who voted in favor of obama care. that's a fa...

>> the house republicans just passed a proposal and their main plan to reduce our long-term deficits and debts is to turn medicare into a voucher program. what would happen under this proposal is you'd get a set amount of money. you could then go out on a private market place and buy insurance but if the voucher you were getting was for $6,000 or $7,000 and the insurance company said it's going to cost you $12,000, well, you're going to have to make up that difference. now, i think that is the wrong $12,000, well, you're going to have to make up that difference. now, i think that is the wrong ...

We're going to reform it. we're going to save it. bologna. president obama is not falling for it. here he is. >> the house republicans just passed a proposal and their main plan to reduce our long-term deficits and debts is to turn medicare into a voucher program. what would happen under this proposal is you'd get a set amount of money. you could then go out on a private market place and buy insurance but if the voucher you were getting was for $6,000 or $7,000 and the insurance company said it's going to cost you $12,000, well, you're going to have to make up that difference. now, i think tha...

Would give bloc grants to the states and pay the insurance providers and seniors would have a list of insurance providers to choose from, and the republicans are saying that this would rein in the cost, but the critics say it would slash benefits to the lowest incomes and states are left with a set amount of money for growing p ing beneficiaries the republicans see it as the first step to gutting the program. there is a fight ahead. >> well, when you go to the hospital, medical care is not cheap, and the cost is rising and perhaps driving the deficit here. anything in the ryan plan to contain ...