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Homeland security, national security. then $2 billion to $4 billion the next year. so the cuts on defense are -- were minimized quite a bit by the most recent agreement john boehner reached. more to the point, how do you bank these cuts? what conservatives like me have been fighting for years are statutory caps on spending, legal caps in law that says government agencies cannot spend over a set amount of money. if they breach that amount across the board sequester comes in to cut that spending, and you can't cut that off without a supermajority vote. we got that in law. that's here. legal caps...

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Here. we can take a listen to what he has to say specifically about what the wealthiest americans have to do. >> we can't just tell the wealthiest among us, you don't have to do a thing. you just sit there and relax, and everybody else, we're going to solve this problem, especially when we know the only way to pay for these tax cuts for the wealthiest americans is by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more for their health care. >> reporter: thomas, these are the bigger policy decisions the president is trying to set up, not just this year and this deficit debate, but also for the 2012...