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And an msnbc political analyst. and an average person. >> was that the phrase in the poll thing? average people. >> average people are born and die and that way -- i don't know, lawrence -- who's working -- >> as the only person here born with a silver spoon anywhere near her, i know carl wagner. >> oh, wow. >> i was born with a -- i believe, a wooden spoon. one of the ones that came with the ice cream. >> i was born with -- >> this regular guy competition is not going well. >> it's not -- it's a terrible idea if you're mitt romney and you have a four-car car elevator you're building, you have...

>> was that the phrase in the poll thing? average people. >> average people are born and die and that way -- i don't know, lawrence -- who's working -- >> as the only person here born with a silver spoon anywhere near her, i know carl wagner. >> oh, wow. >> i was born with a -- i believe, a wooden spoon. one of the ones that came with the ice cream. >> i was born with -- >> this regular guy competition is not going well. >> it's not -- it's a terrible idea if you're mitt romney and you have a four-car car elevator you're building, you have offshore accounts in the cayman islands and hundreds o...