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Something and work together. >> rick, you were part that have amazing scene in the old senate chamber. >> yeah. >> when all 100 senators threw out all the staff. they didn't have any rules of evidence, usual parliamentary rules, and you decided on the rules. what was that like? >> again it goes back to the fact that we took setting precedent very seriously and we thought that the country was very divided. there was a lot of rancor. we felt this was an opportunity to begin. we knew that the president wasn't going to be convicted but at the same time we thought that we wanted to make sure that t...

Hearings they don't go well. and we saw that dramatically with the mueller hearings. you look at what happened today, the witnesses similarly, poorly chosen. you have three witnesses per democrats, elizabeth warren donor and upset about hatred for donald trump that she says she can't walk on the sidewalk in front of a trump property. you had someone who said they didn't need evidence of crime for impeachment which is technically true but not the best talking point. and then you had a guy, brett kavanaugh and dianne feinstein. these are not the type of witnesses you selective trying to convince...

About what happened by closed doors. if you go to the serious process of impeaching present, the american people have a right as he was going on, who is saying what, and way for ourselves of its relevance. >> julie: is it relevant can i give her testimony relevant? >> elizabeth: as guy just said, it's about what rudy giuliani was doing in the ukraine. right? we know that senator ted cruz is now saying, "it's not right, it's inappropriate to ask, including china, to look into a political rival." china is a communist surveillance state. but i think katie made the right point. you said it, too. t...

Scale. but it also is setting precedent for doj and fbi policies. what happens when the next rank and file member has an issue whether with it's with their direct superior or one up and we see the politicization that we just did from the ig report, where do they go? how does this affect the doj and the rank and file people? >> i don't fault the ig for noting technical violations of policy in the employment agreement here. i think, you know, in the dispute between the ig and comey about who owns these memos, i think the ig probably has the better of the argument. you know, it's perfectly reason...

That we don't want. they are going to do that anyway, folks. i watch good people, friend of mine, we're very concerned with setting precedent. that's precedent, not president. precedent. we're very concerned about setting precedent. i'm very concerned with having murderers and drug traffickers and drugs and drug cartels pouring in to our country. that's what i'm concerned about. >> house judiciary chairman said his committee will move forward today with its plan to investigate corruption within the trump white house. >> we will be issuing document requests, over 60 different people and individ...