something and work together. >> rick, you were part that have amazing scene in the old senate chamber. >> yeah. >> when all 100 senators threw out all the staff. they didn't have any rules of evidence, usual parliamentary rules, and you decided on the rules. what was that like? >> again it goes back to the fact that we took setting precedent very seriously and we thought that the country was very divided. there was a lot of rancor. we felt this was an opportunity to begin. we knew that the president wasn't going to be convicted but at the same time we thought that we wanted to make sure that the trial was fair, there was an an opportunity to be heard, understanding that conviction was going to fail. that's not the case here. an election is coming up. everyone has keyed on how do we position ourselves for election?