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We'll do whatever is necessary to make sure that we get the information we need to legislate and protect the country. um, in terms of whether steve bannon's setting a template, he may be setting a template for going to jail. um, to martyr themselves to the former president. i don't think that's a -- a precedent many others are going to want to follow. um, but at the end of the day, the vast majority of people that we're reaching out to are cooperating. and many are reaching out to us. the outliers are the people like bannon and meadows and clark who are not willing to answer their lawful oblig...

Particular phone records we might be interested in, phone records allow you to make contacts between different individuals at key moments in the chronology. who was talking to whom at what time? it doesn't give you content of the communications but if a witness tells you no, i never had a conversation with this person or that person and you have phone records that show otherwise, then it gives you a basis to make sure that you are getting the full truth. >> does it seem to you that steve bannon has actually set the playbook for how people in former president trump's orbit should deal with your...