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Anything. this is even outside of the court of public opinion, and we've seen a lot with all the things that would have been entered into evidence. text messages, confirmation that what they believed was very in contrast to what they actually said on air, but the second, the judge said, look, you're not going to be able to cloak yourself in the first amendment and tell this jury that everything you ever say is protected speech. without consequence at all that was really the probably the beginning of these serious settlement discussions because then the leverage and the power dynamic. instantly...

Company's worth far more than $79 million. they were invested in $79 million valuation in 2018 , but their profits went through the roof. they were worth far more which i was prepared to talk about in my opening today. honestly erin, i wasn't involved in the settlement discussions. i can't say anything about it because i was getting ready to open. right okay. i understand. so you're not able to speak to that specific point, but let me ask you about something else. then in the settlement, which again? i know you're gonna you weren't involved in negotiating it. but the fox news reference to what...

Case this is not a run of the mill-case. this is something that happened long before settlement talks and conversations. damaging information came out publicly about the defendant so it's interesting that this approach may be -- if that's happening right now, settlement discussions, it's interesting that it's happening as so much has happened to the defendant. >> you make a great point. these texts from the fox nuts talents seem to have known the comments were bogus, but they were delivered that's out it's not like fox news can pull the toothpaste back in the tube. what else could be the reaso...

Source. because i know that fox is not reporting this. on their own channel. in order for the fox audience to know that they have been lied to, to know that this was not a stolen election, to know that there was no fraud, they're gonna have to get the news somewhere else. and the problem, is they aren't getting it. what i'll watch for as we come closer to trial is whether there are settlement discussions. because this seems to me one of the clearest cases i've ever seen in defamation cases. you don't often have any kind of written documentation saying i know we are lying, i know the people are...

Public perception. i am hoping it's reaching the fox audience through some source. because i know that fox is not reporting this. on their own channel. in order for the fox audience to know that they have been lied to, to know that this was not a stolen election, to know that there was no fraud, they're gonna have to get the news somewhere else. and the problem, is they aren't getting it. what i'll watch for as we come closer to trial is whether there are settlement discussions. because this seems to me one of the clearest cases i've ever seen in defamation cases. you don't often have any kind...