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>> the situation with dawn brancheau didn't just happen. it's not a singular event. you have to go back over 20 years to understand this. >> it was a really exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you you were going to do? >> capture orcas. >> they had aircraft, spotters, speedboats, they had bombs they were throwing in the water. they were lighting their bombs with a settling torches and their boats and throwing them as fast as they could to heard the whales into codes. but the orcas had been caught before, and they knew what was

Brancheau didn't just happen. it's not a singular event. you have to go back over 20 years to understand this. >> it was a really exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you you were going to do? >> capture orcas. >> they had aircraft, spotters, speedboats, they had bombs they were throwing in the water. they were lighting their bombs with a settling torches and their boats and throwing them as fast as they could to heard the whales into codes. but the orcas had been caught before, and they knew what was going on, and they knew their young ones would be ...

Would get a little irritated, aggravated, maybe a little psychotic? >> the situation with dawn brancheau didn't just happen. it's not a singular event. you have to go back over 20 years to understand this. >> it was a really exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you you were going to do? >> capture orcas. >> they had aircraft, spotters, speedboats, they had bombs they were throwing in the water. they were lighting their bombs with a settling torches and their boats and throwing them as fast as they could to heard the whales into codes.

Aggravated, maybe a little psychotic? >> the situation with dawn brancheau didn't just happen. it's not a singular event. you have to go back over 20 years to understand this. >> it was a really exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you you were going to do? >> capture orcas. >> they had aircraft, spotters, speedboats, bombs they were throwing in the water. they were lighting their bombs with a settling torches and their boats and thoughing them as fast as they could to heard the whales into codes. but the orcas had been caught before, and they knew wh...

Years to understand this. >> it was a really exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you you were going to do? >> capture orcas. >> they had aircraft, spotters, speedboats, bombs they were throwing in the water. they were lighting their bombs with a settling torches and their boats and thoughing them as fast as they could to heard the whales into codes. but the orcas had been caught before, and they knew what was going on, and they knew their young ones would be taken from