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On the other, there's a certain reality of managing our employee bases and running our companies, and those two may be on a bit of a collision course. we'll o find out. >> reporter: the biden administration says because this new rule is under osha, it supersedes local restrictions. of course opponents will no doubt take this to court. okay, with our thanks to gabe gutierrez for that setup story, back with us tonight, dr. vin gupta from seattle. he's been advising us on public health throughout this pandemic and is on the faculty at the university of washington institute for health metrics an...

To me? >> because you're going to make the case that you were used. >> why is this convenient to me? >> i let you make the statement twice. you said you were set up. because it's part of a setup scenario. >> i think it is a glance. >> you said scenario twice. i know what you're doing. >> can you -- we have a delay here pare here apparently. i know i'm getting interrupted. what you would like me to answer now? >> you already told me you remember all this two years late. thank you michael caputo. good luck with your setup story. >> i hope you -- >> you heard that. so convenient. two years later ...