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Campaign so that certainly would be bad judgment. the where to have this conversation at their embassy and away from u.s. officials or at a u.s. facility is also unusual. also the when. to have it before jared kushner is an official u.s. government person i think also would be unusual. finally, the how. to not use official means, that considering what russia had done to us, and that to many looks like it's trying to circumvent monitoring that may exist. >> so obviously at the least you think poor judgment, but you're not going so far as to use the word "illegal" at this time. >> too early to t...

Form that you use to apply for security clearance, he had failed to disclose prior contacts with the russians and other foreign nationals. so that i hope is being looked into as well. >> if you were in charge of that decision, what would you do? >> i'd revoke it. >> you'd revoke it. okay. i just want to make sure i understand. the press secretary today, sean spicer, was asked about whether the president knew about this, that jared kushner was trying to establish a back channel and he wouldn't directly answer the question. here he is. >> i'm not going to get into what the president did or did n...

This did occur. >> at what point do they get to stand behind the idea that this is intelligence and we can't talk to you about it? >> that's a great question. let's go back to the private citizen. that dove tails to what you are asking. jared was a private citizen. in many respects, if this did happen, it may not be illegal. where it comes in and where it is not a question of intelligence is that sf 86. essentially they will receive a top secret clearance. even if he was honest or did not make an o kigz, this may be a disqualifying thing. that's sf 86. >> sorry we didn't have more

Back to april, and apparently didn't report those on his sf-86 either. it's this pattern of concealment that will get the attention of investigators. when they see someone concealing something they think it's for a reason, for something suspicious. i guarantee that's what bob mueller will look at and the senate committee will look at as well. >> rick stengler, you heard malcolm nance who feels at some level a personal professional n insu insult. he has been in a state of disbelief we are having this conversation. he was the first to give voice to this. i have heard others since. the notion of ...

But had any individual other than these individuals who worked immediately for president trump, performed these actions at any time in the sf-86 security clearance process, they would have immediately had their clearances pulled. they would have had their jobs terminated. some of these contacts are so suspicious that they would have warranted their own counterintelligence investigation. this nation is in a counterintelligence investigation. they are in a spy hunt over at the fbi, and now we have this story. should it prove true, of an american citizen who is the senior adviser to the president...