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Secretary of the army. chairman chafis has seen the f-86 form and has spoken to the department of defense. if he has seen it and there is no data that flynn collide with the law, there is a good indication that there is a serious problem here. >> what do you think, phil, is he going to testify before these house and senate committees general flynn? i know his lawyers suggested immunity. there is no indication anyone wants to grant him immunity. >> why would he testify? we have jason chaffetz just stepped into it by violating innocent until proven guilty. are we investigating individuals as the...

Prior to january 20th. as you know, we didn't assume the white house until january 20th at noon so we don't have documents prior to assuming the white house. the third is they listed for every call and contact that he made. >> when it comes to this form, sf 86, another white house staffer, jared kushner, who had difficulty filling it out. he did not fully fill out section 19 about contacts with foreign officials even though he spoke to a number of them. he went back and filled that out. we don't know because we don't have access to general flynn's fs-86 what he put down there the documents. ac...

Lo letter to the committee said the white house can't provide because of sense of it nature. you said there were no documents available prior to the 20th. >> right. >> but i also asked the question does the white house believe that lieutenant general flynn might have broken the law when he filled out sf-86? >> that would be a question for him and a law enforcement agency whether he filled -- i don't know what he filled out, what he did or did not do. that all happened -- he filled that form out prior to coming here. so it would be up to the committee and other authorities to look at that. i do...

Flynn's application to renew his security clearance in january 2016. this form is called an sf-86. general flynn filed his sf-86 a month after he traveled to moscow. however, there is no evidence, as the chairman said, anywhere in these documents that reported the funds he received for this trip. there's also no evidence that he sought permission to obtain these funds from a foreign source. this is a major problem. as the sf-86 explains, and i quote, all questions on this form must be answered completely and truthfully. it also says this, and let me quote directly, the united states criminal c...

Contact that he made which is an extraordinary number that -- that's a very unwieldy request. >> was it the sheer volume of it or -- >> to say we warrant the national security advisor whose job it is to talk with foreign counterparts on a daily basis to documents every call that he may or may not have made is not exactly a request that's able to be filled. but every document they asked for, my understanding is they've gotten. >> sean, is it your position that during the transition, the trump transition has no custodial possession of any of these documents? >> well, again -- >> -- that lieutena...