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Being abused, sent you a picture of her with a black eye and took out a restraining order, you would believe her in a heartbeat, whatever your politics. i do want to reemphasize this is a national security issue. they were given -- they were in the works of having a certain kind of clearance, getting an sf-86 form filled out or completed for them. on that thing if someone was just saying he had tt one point he said he took three to five hit of marijuana, another time he said four to six, in his whole life, 35-year-old man. and the fbi called him on that discrepancy. and he had to be interrogat...

Contractor. i cannot imagine someone with this type of access being allowed to go on when there are security clearance issues. you just don't see that. >> the fbi does interviews with friends, relatives, associates, someone who is applying for security clearances, but also questions the individual himself or herself, right? >> that's correct. >> now, when the fbi questions these individuals, if that person lies about something, that's a crime, right? >> that's a criminal offense. >> in this particular case, let's say the fbi asked rob porter, is there anything in your past that could cause any...

About whether mueller is like santa claus, you know, that he knows who's naughty and who's nice. >> knows when you're sleeping, knows when you're awake. >> yes. >> chris, i should follow it up, i just saw -- my bad. i was remiss. you say you haven't seen evidence of a broader conspiracy but you're starting to see the building blocks. can you explain a little bit more to me what you meant by that? >> i see some significance in the flynn plea and what he pled to, because if this were the end of the line -- first of all, you know, it's right out of the play book to flip the middlemen, flip people...

The context beyond the paper and the e-mails in a conspiracy case, so they could have had him plead fara or some other minor violation, some disclosure issue on an sf-86. instead they had him plea to lying and -- to the fbi. order fainarily that would tain witness. it's either an overt act an a conspiracy or it's actual obstruction. so, you know, ordinarily, i'd say that's a tainted witness, but in this case, i see -- i see something bigger and broader developing here. some thing with the papadopoulos plea which links the pre-election time period with the post-election time period with flynn. ...

The contents of these e-mails he's the hero. he's the one saying there shouldn't be any contact with foreign officials or foreign entities. that's what the senate judiciary committee should pay tension to and not create some sort of partisan gotcha game. >> the perception, though, is built because of the sf-86, the fact that he didn't disclose all those contacts at first, and the fact that these documents they say are missing that were provided by others. >> when you siyou say he did no disclose on his sf-86 again a misperception. it was sent the first time with the hit of a send button before...