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Pressure, maybe not off the table, but he doesn't want to talk about it right now. prematurely close enough to north korea or is this how things need to be done with the rogue regime? >> each party to the talks is conduct in their own shadow boxing in of the talks and seems to me a little bit of a good cop bad cop performance, kind of like what reagan did with gorbachev. the key is to see what can we offer north korea to get them to be neutralized and the nukes are so important to their security. leland: do you believe they would be nuclear race? when other top about it, promised in the past a...

Against china mid-june. when you look at the numbers here, i'm scratching my head trying to figure out why. why slap such broader higher tariffs on u.s. allies than even on china if this is a president that said china was raping us on trade? >> it feels like this could be shadow boxing or strategic maneuver in some sense. a lot of this is theater because i think that china is the ultimate goal here. and so if you show that you're willing to impose tariffs on your closest allies, then surely you also will be willing to do it to china, which is really the ultimate enemy in one respect of the adm...

Your paper, people familiar with trump's thinking said the president was frustrated with the bill and the coverage it was receiving on fox news where critics took aim at the level of spending in the bill. here's another case of where he seems to be -- it's all this shadow boxing and performance art like he's out in the street corner doing performance art just to keep us talking about his latest craziness. >> well, to keep us talking about his latest craziness and to keep us from talking about the latest craziness surrounding him. >> this is wag the dog? >> you have to look at it through the co...

Would not always have that. a lot of poking around of what this was. i will say this, this was several weeks ago and he continued to speak out just as aggressively. this has not tamed or made him nervous enough that he backed down on any of those statements. >> the possibility of more economic sanctions against venezuela now when you look at the political response, betsy. >> make more sense. the notion that we would send the military into venezuela. that said, i think, speaking to the question of the president's credibility, it's important to remember that president trump, his gut reaction is ...

Week when trump has the possibility of meeting with the russian president vladimir putin at the international summit you'll be attending. >> kristin, thank you for setting us up for this discussion. we have questions coming out of her reporting. first, these tweets from the president. josh, it is kind of a return to the i'm rubber, you're glue defense that the president employed again and again as a candidate. now we're seeing against president obama, he himself, president trump, our reporting says is under investigation for potential obstruction of justice from special counsel. now he is accu...