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Already believe what happens on the field trumps literally everything else. do you believe that? >> well, i mean, the ratings certainly prove it. we see this all the time. there's always some kind of shadow cast over the nfl. they're not particularly good at pdr. there's just always some kind of, you know, controversy. they always have, often, a lot of cultural issues around the league. they're always making some group very, very angry. however, they are a juggernaut. their ratings just consistently are off the charts. i'm almost certain that yesterday's game is going to be the top-rated show ...

The mueller headlines also seem to pile on during these trips, too. charlie? >> it's absolutely coming at an intense time. you mentioned the shadow cast over this by the death of president george h.w. bush, the man we think of as coining the notion of the new world order, multi-lateral diplomacy. here we have president trump in the midst of this maelstrom between the tariff crisis with china and the michael cohen revelations even as he's coming face to face with president putin again. it's a completely different scenario, a president equipped to talk on the world stage, eager to create ties in...

Aggressive c aggressive with so many people, and why is he so passive when it comes to putin? >> we're not going to answer that tonight, but it is the right question to be asking. you're so right to spotlight this loose meeting statement president trump made today. he spend the last several months pursuing a meeting with vladimir putin, even against the advice and caution of his aids. never mind the insane political optics meeting with putin at a time when there remained this shadow cast over his election, result of the ongoing mueller investigation. so president trump has pursued this summit ...

Here are some highlights. >> i thought we did extraordinary work. >> there is a shadow cast over what has been a major contribution to protecting this country. >> should the cia even be in the business of interrogating detainees? >> having access, direct access to a terrorist is extremely valuable for intelligence collection and we do that. but cia does not today conduct interrogations. we never did historically and we're not getting back in that business. >> what would you do if the president ordered you to get back in that business? >> senator, the president has selected me to give him advic...