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Best of the best, and we have never seen these types of numbers in distress around a president like now. >> no. and it doesn't matter to a whole bunch of people. you mentioned the swamp. i'm from louisiana. you've got to be careful, chris, when you drain the swamp because a whole lot of other creatures come out. they try to attach themselves to you so that you don't -- they don't drown. sow you get the water moccasins, the alligators, the snakes and all kinds of varmints and creatures. and that looks like what's happening in washington right now. yeah, he was supposed to drain the swamp. just ...

Come out. they try to attach themselves to you so that you don't -- they don't drown. so you get water moccasins, the alligators, the snakes and all kind of varmints and creatures. and that looks like what's happening in washington right now. yeah, he was supposed to drain the swamp. just look at what's happening in today's news. right? you've got manafort. you've got gates. you've got all of that going on. then you have the story from propublica about basically there's a shadow group that is overseeing the v.a., men with no military, no government experience. so you have all of that. my quest...

Asking the fbi agents involved in that deal. those agents, as you imagine, with an investigation, obviously, there would be notes on investigation. there would be 302s, which is the fbi term for a report within the investigation, and whatever they did to speak with people. you'd have all that. but you'd also want the agent's take on, you know, was there any avenue that has come up since you think we should be looking at. is there any sort of angle we should be going through with any sort of fresh look at this. so that's what we've learned is going on right now. >> there's a report in politico ...

Be, you know, until she runs for president perhaps and that's a problem. plenty of republicans to rand paul who are absolutely willing to flub the zone with negative clinton stuff and they better be better equipped at responding to them. >> instead of the shadow group, the hangers on around her coming out and defending and speaking for hillary clinton world when really they are not actually in it, and that's a dangerous way to go. >> and it is strategic in the sense that they want this to kind of peter out. want to get all of this stuff out there so it's not just from 20 years ago. that's from...

Heard? he's actually saying that the mainstream media was paying too much attention to the tea party? huh? how did you react? >> yeah. oh, i thought it was -- i had two immediate reactions. my first one was i thought the remark was rich coming from a governor whose political party benefited greatly by the media carrying the water for their presidential nominee last election. and i also thought it was kind of amusing as well because they can't make up their minds. is it the fault of the media, is the media given them too much credibility? are they still a shadow group of the g.o.p.? they can't ...