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Know, there's self-blame, there's shame, there's humiliation. there's the fear of not being believed if you really tell the truth about the situation. so every time he got another honorary ph.d. and grew in the eyes of everybody in the public we were being diminished more and more each time because we knew the shadow self of this man who was not the great dr. huxtable or america's dad. that was the character he played. but that was not the real man. and so consequently this journey has just really been very difficult for me. i wasn't going to talk about it in 2005 when i heard that andrea cons...

And more each time because we knew the shadow self of this man who was not the great dr. huxtable or america's dad. that was the character he played. but that was not the real man. and so consequently this journey has just really been very difficult for me. i wasn't going to talk about it in 2005 when i heard that andrea constand had come out talking about drugging and -- being drugged and fondled by him. i looked at my daughter, and she looked at me. oh, my god, that's what he did. and then i just had to push it away. and so then again in 2014 i saw barbara bowman on yahoo. and again i just -...

It. they liked that feeling of, oh, it's an exciting feeling to have a woman say this is what i want and this is what it. that men felt like women can tell me what they want and what they like and what they think. and it is exciting to hear that. i think. >> did you become more like her after the movie? because you kind of admired the way she went about her work? >> how i became like her was not in a sexual sense. but in a sense of, that i came to understand the shadow self. the sense, in the sense that i became really clear that is have the showdown over self is cast by the light self. they'r...

They liked that feeling of, oh, it's an exciting feeling to have a woman say this is what i want and this is what it. that men felt like women can tell me what they want and what they like and what they think. and it is exciting to hear that. i think. >> did you become more like her after the movie? because you kind of admired the way she went about her work? >> how i became like her was not in a sexual sense. but in a sense of, that i came to understand the shadow self. the sense, in the sense that i became really clear that is have the showdown over self is cast by the light self. they're no...

Tell me what they want and what they like and what they think. and it is exciting to hear that. i think. >> did you become more like her after the movie? because you kind of admired the way she went about her work? >> how i became like her was not in a sexual sense. but in a sense of, that i came to understand the shadow self. the sense, in the sense that i became really clear that is have the showdown over self is cast by the light self. they're not cast by darkness. they're cast by light. and we have our good self and our shadow self that we look at. to find our great self, we have to integr...