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Perhaps, you know, paul manafort. but we know from other evidence from michael cohen and others that donald trump was involved in poll-rigging. donald trump was involved in paying and silencing witnesses who would testify, you know, or talk to the press about his character. so he's a shadowy operator. so we at least have good reason to look and see if donald trump was the one with this intense interest in finding out what roger stone was obtaining. >> shadowy operator. that is an interesting way to put it. what else stands out to you from the indictment, congressman? >> you know, here we see p...

But we know from other evidence from michael cohen and others that donald trump was involved in poll-rigging. donald trump was involved in paying and silencing witnesses who would testify, you know, or talk to the press about his character. so he's a shadowy operator. so we at least have good reason to look and see if donald trump was the one with this intense interest in finding out what roger stone was obtaining. >> shadowy operator. that is an interesting way to put it. what else stands out to you from the indictment, congressman? >> you know, here we see powerful, powerful evidence of a co...