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Humanitarian gesture that should have been taken a long time ago. i don't see it as troubling at all. they'll smooth it over and move on. >> not like that's new there have been shake-ups in the past. the overdrive on this issue happened after the national security council made some changes removing steve bannon from the national security council and then this picture comes out showing trump in his war room at the florida resort and you can see who's in the picture. kushner and priebus literally have a seat at the table and bannon as you see is in the back corner, not at the table, mayor, what ...

>> we've been hearing about a possible shake up since the oath was taken and president trump took office. factions and shake ups and infighting are really common in presidential administrations. we can talk about any president going back decades. there is always infighting. look atment lincoln with his team of rivals, everybody at each other's throats. i think in this instance, you see a dividing line in the white house between kushner and ivanka trump on one side, and bannon on the other trying to push the trump populist agenda that got him elected. but you've got kushner on the other side tr...

Kushner -- you've reported on it in really eye-opening ways -- what this says about the stakes of the battles that are happening around personnel inside the oval office. >> well, certainly i think that as you suggested, there's not a lot of appetite for what the alt-right, what the breitbart folks see as interventionism. they were very much cheered when donald trump took this tack that he didn't want the u.s. to be the policemen of the world. bannon does represent that. ultimately though, i think what we see, despite all the shake-ups of the nsc and all our efforts to read the tea leaves there...

Join a pro-trump group. white house spokesman sean spicer using one word to fight speculation that a dam has burst and if it hasn't already that it's coming. >> walsh's departure today, are you expect anything more staffing shake-ups in the west wing? >> no. >> with us in new york, direct are of progressive programming for sirius xm. and new york republican party chair ed cox. thank you both. zirlina, the reporting -- this is not necessarily the first time we've heard about jared kushner and his if you will, growing portfolio. now we're seeing this morning because we've had a series of falls a...

Not as obsessed with the process as much as the substance. our goal is to make sure the ranking members of both committees, as well as the chairman, see the information that the materials that are important and then worry about the outcome at the end. >> and then on a different topic, with miss walsh's depa departure today, are you expecting any more shake-ups in the west wing? >> no. katherine. >> are you say -- >> i'm saying that in order to comment on that story would be to validate certain things that i am not at liberty to do. >> will you be able to tell us who he met with? >> there's an ...