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>> i don't recall a conversation like that. >> never? >> no. >> do you find it odd. >> not with the president trump. >> right. >> i attended a fair number of meetings on that with president obama. >> james comey speaking about the two administrations in the approach to russia. joining me is formerly ambassador to russia. right before the break i played new sound from president trump arguing obama didn't do enough. and then you have the big report today i'm sure you have a front

There were truths that comey said that trump denied were true. so you have that. you've got the threat to fire -- first the try and influence comey and then the firing itself. and now you've got the attack on mueller, where there is clearly an effort to build up the idea that mueller is biased, that, you know, god forbid, he's hiring people who made contributions to democrats. so he has a political track where he's trying to create pressure, and then he's got the legal track. >> here was trump on mueller. >> he's very, very good friends with comey, which is very bothersome. but he's also -- we...

Asked dan coats and admiral rogers to drop -- to try and put an end to the investigation. so you've got now five acts of obstruction of justice. you've got the president of the united states admitting that he got rid of comey because of the russian investigation. you've got him admitting to the russian ambassador that he fired comey because he didn't want the russian investigation on his back. and now you've got him admitting to fox news, in kind of a most convoluted way, that he was trying to manipulate comey's testimony. ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what more do you need to convict this...

Feel like a national version of candy crush, wasting our time whether we like it or not. now after that nudge from fox news, trump says maybe he misled everyone about the tapes to shape comey's testimony. >> when he found out that i -- you know, that there may be tapes out there, whether it's governmental tapes or anything else, and who knows, i think his story may have changed. i mean you'll have to take a look at that because then he has to tell what actually took place at the events. and my story didn't change. my story was always a straight story. my story was always the truth. but you'll ...

>> he did say under oath that you told him to let the flynn -- you said you hoped the flynn investigation -- he could let go. >> i didn't say that. >> so he lied about that? >> well, i didn't say that. i mean i will tell you i didn't say that. >> so trump said comey was lying about things that make trump look bad, but he tweeted a misleading statement about tapes to make comey tell the truth, which worked except for when it didn't. at this point you might want to throw your hands up and say, forget it or, worse, you might say maybe nothing matters. but that's not actually the case. these thing...