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That would be not only a tragic circumstance for the country but it would be a really disastrous one for the democratic party. i think one thing that manchin and sinema have taught progressives in the house is how to use leverage. and everybody's trying to use leverage to shape the final form of this legislation. but if they miscalculate and it ends up in the whole thing crashing, the infrastructure bill, the reconciliation bill, that would be a disaster for the democratic party. i think they understand that. i think that they will come to some conclusion here. i cannot believe that they're go...

Progressives in the house is how to use leverage. and everybody's trying to use leverage to shape the final form of this legislation. but if they miscalculate and it ends up in the whole thing crashing, the infrastructure bill, the reconciliation bill, that would be -- that would be a disaster for the democratic party. i think they understand that. i think that they will come to some conclusion here. i cannot believe that they're going to walk away empty-handed. but as harwood said, you know, it could be that they've gotten in so deep here, it's hard to get out. but remember manchin and sinema...