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9/11, egypt air, silk air, malaysia and air france. those five alone there are 4200 deaths. that's about the iraq war. on those five crashes, it was a mystery what the pilots were doing. when you put it down to raw, hard data that's a lot of lives lost. it is a practical issue when almost 300 accidents, commercial plane crashes are caused by pilot mistakes. makes perfect sense to cut down on them. >> les is about to jump out of his seat. go ahead. >> thank you, don. 4200 deaths is significant and the family and we don't have to get in to that. but what would you have prevented with a camera in...

One idea, streaming cockpit data live from the flight. the ntsb has called for video cameras in cockpits. you oppose this. why is that? >> well, i think the first thing we have to do is take a step back and acknowledge one thing. the fact of the matter is we have the safest form of transportation in the history of the world. we continue to have that right now, even with the presence of this issue with the malaysia flight. the reason for that is because we have safety-minded professionals up front flying those airplanes and we have a great system in which we currently manage available data. >> ...

All the time. if they are constantly doing themselves all the time they have no time for privacy activities, half of which require you to be naked. we know that isn't happening. there is no privacy in the cockpit. 9/11, egypt air, silk air, mals malaysia and air france. those five alone there are 4200 deaths. that's about the iraq war. on those five crashes, it was a mystery what the pilots were doing. when you put it down to raw, hard data that's a lot of lives lost. it is a practical issue when almost 300 accidents, commercial plane crashes are caused by pilot mistakes. makes perfect sense t...

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Evidence. >> so richard, the prime minister does not want to come out and say the plane is lost now out of respect for, he says the families. do they still believe it's -- what they initially said it is in the southern indian ocean? >> oh, yes. there's no question the pm believes that. he has very high confidence in the inmarsat data and the pings from the "ocean shield." he makes clear, don, that if that evidence should prove to be inaccurate, well, not to put a finer point on it, it's all they have got. >> yeah, it is. richard, standby. fascinating interview. i want to bring in my team of ex...