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Public or to the people. >> who cares? if he wasn't comfortable, he could have brought in a ceo or sold his company. larry and sergei at google said, we're not the public eyes. bring eric in. >> you can say he did bring many sheryl sandberg. >> when has sheryl done a true interview? >> he's done plenty of interv w interviews, including with us, been on stage, as has mark. mark hasn't been that front and center. the key thing to know, however, questions about resigning or stepping down, doesn't matter. mark zuckerberg controls the company through a share structure. if he makes a decision that t...

>> reporter: the announcement came in a blog called g is for google, from larry paige, the chief executive. in it, he said our company is operating well today, but we think we can make it cleaner and more accountable. and so the idea is to create a holding company, with a similar share structure to google, and enter it all the various components, including a newer, slimmed-down google. out of google will go the life sigh inches, the health care and all of the newer bits. they will all trade as individual companies within the overarching alphabet corporation. larry paige becomes the chief execu...

do. nobody can get the support to get one of those through. do we have to look for just the possible? >> i think mission number one is to raise the debt ceiling. they cannot get away without doing that. saying they're going to downgrade you. but they left a bit of an out. if you raise the ceiling but give indication you're on the road to getting a deal, we'll keep you on credit watch negative but take you off and affirm your aaa rating if you get it done within a couple of months if we see that possibility. so that's -- that seems to me to be the fallback plan for congress. weather t...

jeanne, first question, is it time to simply say, let's go for the possible in washington? everybody has grand ideas about what they want to do. nobody, nobody can get the support to get one of those through. do we have to look for just the possible? >> i think the mission of everyone in congress is to absolutely raise the debt ceiling. they cannot get away without doing that. the s&p has been the strongest credit rating agency. they said, we're going to downgrade you if you don't come up with a plan. but they say f you raise the ceiling but give us indication that you're on the road...