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Meanwhile, we know millions ofra americans have natural immunity from previous covid infections. studies show they have far greater protection and the vaccine can provide. tony fauci was just asked about this on cnn. if people of natural immunity, why do they need the vaccine? he couldn't answer. >> as we talk about vaccine mandates and i get calls all the time, people say i've already had covid and i'm protected and then somebody says may be more protected than the vaccine alone, should they also get the vaccine? how do you make the case with that? >> that is a really good point. i don't real...

Good areas. wolf, this is a big thing that happened. somebody must have been coordinating this, no? trump, it's a coordinated effort, and it's also cancel culture. joining me now is michael wolf, author of the new book, "landslide, the final days of the trump presidency," and michael, i wanted to start with that because at the very end of the book, you basically publish a transcript of the conversation you had, long conversation you had with donald trump at mar-a-lago, not long ago. and i wanted to read that because one, it's a very simple but important question, who rigged it, that he couldn'...

If you actually believe he read the book? i mean, congressman, course. it of course he didn't read the book. >> if he read it he wouldn't of put it on his list. i like to read, this is a reading list that has been in my inbox for nearly a decade. i often read books from the reading list of the highest ranking admiral, those books are often about character, about leadership, about naval history. this is the first time i've ever seen a book like this that politicize is the list that tells sailors that america is equal. if you want to recruit the next generation of young women to raise the right ...

Whether they go down the more progressive than ideological. this is one time we definitely agree about senator harris. 1979 roger mudd asked ted kennedy why do you want to be president, and he couldn't answer it. she never was able to say why i want to be president. >> the good news for her, i think she'll get another chance. elizabeth warren is now going after mayor pete. is that smart? >> there's a lot of things to criticize pete on. going after mckenzie three years out, i don't know if that's smart. i might focus on his mar kroy in south bend, particular as it relates to african-americans. ...

Juanita, it seemed to me that the interviewer there was trying to find out from a man who asked to get on the intelligence committee, he put himself on it, he wanted in the action and he was asked a central question. was it okay for our president to push the president of another country, ukraine, for dirt on a political opponent. >> seems like a yes or no question to me. >> he didn't have an answer. >> he couldn't answer it. it's something that many members of the gop can't answer because there's no way to refute the substance, there's for way to refute the information that witnesses, one afte...