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That's part of the burden they have to prove, right. you can't say theoretically, this might have happened. you have to be concrete about how it actually did, right? >> exactly. you just zeroed in on one of the biggest gaps in her case. she could not point to a single specific conversation with anybody, her family members, her close friends where they said we saw that article. it's terrible, or she called them and said this article is terrible. she couldn't point to anyone who shunned her or thought differently about her. she couldn't point to any financial harm or lost opportunities. it was a...

That's part of the burden for the act to prove. you can't say theoretically this might have happened. you have to be concrete about how it actually did, right? >> exactly. you just zeroed in on one of the biggest gaps in her case. she could not point to a single specific conversation with anybody, her family members, her close friends, where they said, we saw that article, it's terrible or she called them and said this article is terrible. she couldn't point to anyone who shunned her or thought differently about her. she couldn't point to any financial harm or lost opportunities. it was a glar...

>> well, several times at the press briefing today sarah sanders said the same thing and that there was a lethal arms sale to ukraine but she couldn't point to anything that was tangible he did that was more than what the obama administration did and that's because over this last year this president has been in office for 13 months now he's dodged the subject of interference by russia in the election and what not and that was the thing, the bar is so low here for the president to condemn russia for what they did and yet we have not seen that, even in light what we we learned on friday about th...

Act so erratically and it is a big story when somebody stands up to common decency. >> and so what was your take on sarah huckabee sanders? >> she didn't have any real ideological response as to why the president was opposed to -- she couldn't point to a single vote -- in other words the president's whole job is to get a legislative agenda passed. executive orders are fine but as we can see, they've been undone. to leave a legacy, to get real change, it has to be legislation. >> here is the thing. >> she couldn't point to a single vote. >> they can never name a single vote. they never can. >> ...

No one saluted. but when we got back to the squadron and it was reported, he couldn't point out any other guys but he remembered a black woman in a flight suit. you know there's unconscious bias and the conscious. i think sometimes with especially minorities, when we stand out more than the majority, some of that is absolutely going to happen. >> isn't it, though, troubling that some people in the african american community and other communities of color go into the military to escape some of the kinds of discrimination and unfairness in their hometowns in terms of getting a job and career, an...