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Anything. he's not going to run for anything. there are things he wants to do for -- >> gene, you and i agree on a lot of things. he wants it in the history books. he wants unemployment rate to go down. he wants it in the history books. how does he get in the history books if the republicans stymie him? maybe he can get past the gun thing. immigration is his baby. if they say no, if people like ted cruz and mike lee of utah, the junior senator out there, people like rand paul blow it, they say 60 votes or nothing, they keep from getting the 60, he'll never get in the house and nothing's going ...

People like rand paul blow it, they say 60 votes or nothing, they keep from getting the 60, he'll never get in the house and nothing's going to happen. gene, who wins then? >> well -- >> gene? >> well, then he doesn't get the bill. >> so the scorched earth policy works. so the negativity the republican party gets what it wants, a noncreative president. >> does the president get to determine what the house and what the senate do? no. he doesn't get -- >> the public expects it. >> the public holds the president responsible. i think he should throw some elbows. >> didn't he say, in a pretty rough...

>> absolutely. it went up into the situation room and into the oval office. let's not kid ourselves. when you lose or have an american ambassador being attacked it goes right to the president. if he doesn't get, you need a new commander-in-chief. everybody my this. it's now becoming evident that everybody knew this. because they didn't prepare in advance, that's a huge problem. they should have had a global hawk sitting over that and reapers offshore and, airborne. and the fact is they didn't even prepare which almost moves towards the criminal negligence that we didn't prepare ourselves for 9...

Produces two reactions. the first is, well, fear. it's hard to believe you're about to actually do this. the second reaction is a surge of adrenaline. it definitely gets your heart beating. mike rutzen knows that better than anyone. he's dived with great whites without a cage hundreds of times. he once even caught a ride on a great white's dorsal fin. he insists these animals may be top predators, but they're not the man-eating machines so often portrayed in movies. we've decided to take him up on his offer to dive with the sharks without a cage to see the great whites in their natural state. ...

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