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Conservative who then says, but we need the oil. yeah, we need the oil as long as we keep saying we need the oil. and as long as we put off the day as we have for so many years now when we get on to some other form of energy. i guess we're just going to wait until the oil runs out. that's the only way we'll get it to stop. >> video being released of the actual spill that bp released, the disaster over there. it is so dramatic. quickly, elena kagan, the supreme court nominee, is she someone that you think is ready for a lifetime appointment on the u.s. supreme court? >> well, she's absolutely r...

The senator flake thing is about his book and much more about that than the public policy debate. >> it is quite shocking really to. have a sitting republican senator write a lengthy missive about why he is against the president in his own party. >> i'll be honest with you. as a conservative leader over the last 20, 25 years in washington, d.c., jeff flake has just not been there for the conservative movement. >> martha: so are you supporting other people? >> no, no. >> martha: are you trying to get kelli ward to run against him in the president tweeted about her. she is very controversial. is...

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Standout as you did but maybe it's a different perspective. and i was getting hit 15 different ways. everything i ever said about a woman, i got hit on that, no doubt about that. >> and thank you to my guests for being with me. matt, who do you think won last night? >> i think carly fiorina had a very good night and she wasn't even on the main debate stage in the first debate. she's sort of rapidly rising and we'll see and hear more from her in the next week or so. jeb bush had some good moments as well and trump sort of held his own. i don't think either of those damaged themselves that much....