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37 minutes between the last time we heard gunshots to now. so the idea of if they thought it was a barricaded situation, or no longer an active shooter, that has now been retriggered. >> and it will be another half an hour before they make entry. >> i just want to talk about the victims, right? because i spoke to one of the mothers of one of the kids who survived. and she told me that her son recollects, remembers someone hearing a police officer say hey, you inside? do you need help? and the kid answers back yeah, we're in here. and then the gunman shoots and kills him. so that is h...

Civilian witnesses. that's it. there was 360 cops on the scene. 91 from the department of public safety. 12 of them were in that hallway. 12 dps troopers. and yet they're not on that video. you have 19 other body cams in that room, and yet we only get to see one. we didn't get to see the body cam that was right outside of that room where he sheltered himself in with the kids when he shot back at the first seven officers. i saw this after the first week when i got in an argument with the bio officer at dps. i went in to their trailer, spoke to him, shut the door behind me. and in front of me wa...