Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150724:16:05:00
>> chief, you said the gun is hard to trace. why is that? >> because of the brand. >> what brand? >> type brand. i don't know if atf wants to release that at this time. >> 13 shots. >> yeah. >> he shot 12 bullets and then himself? >> that's what it would look like. we found 13 shell casings. but as i said, the walls are carpeted. that makes it difficult to find bullet holes and other physical evidence, so they have to go very slow. they've located at least 13 shell casings ss thus far. we don't anticipate having another update until later on this afternoon, possibly around 5:00 p.m. we have so...