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Personal responsibility is utterly perverse. what would he say to my constituents, particularly those clinically extremely vulnerable, for whom his freedom day is a day of fear and loss of freedom? and would he clarify his response because it is notjust he clarify his response because it is not just an he clarify his response because it is notjust an issue of free testing for people in care homes but at the very least for that almost 7 million carers up and down the country. just on that. carers up and down the country. just on that- she — carers up and down the country. just on that. she sh...

Not your place, you were there to enact what was being recommended? no, we absolutely debated and challenged that advice but when you are faced with a decision of this enormity then ultimately, of course, as health secretary, my primary goal on protecting lives, finding a way out of this and protecting the nhs, i made that argument, but ultimately, you know, we didn't know how long people would put up with that and now, it seems obvious that people would put up with lockdown, it was not at all obvious, we needed the protections in place especially for vulnerable people in the shielding program...