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Long-terletterman who was on the plane. >> good to see you, shep. >> shepard: you arrive at 4:00 in the morning at joint base andrews, right? and that's how this day begins? >> that's right. we came off of the plane thinking that tillerson had returned from africa trip. nothing really unusual in that he had come back about a day early from that trip. but, he seemed in good spirits on the ride home. there was no indication from either him or from his staff that anything major like this was imminent. he in fact came back and spoke to us on the plane on the way back. rich read a little bit to you...

Instability in the world. acting with open disregard for the soncht of other states and the life of their citizens. also, senior state department officials were telling us a couple days ago that the secretary of state and the state department had basically had enough with russia on many fronts. they still wanted to try to work with the russians but they were going to be taking a much more aggressive posture, certainly publicly towards the russians. that's something that we had heard from the state department within this week. and the secretary of state also knocked on russia again today. take ...

Whatever is built very much up in the air at the moment, shep. >> shepard: jonathan, let's see if we can hear the president. >> ship shep they are a little bit far from the microphones. if we can hear the president. they have allow the cameras to listen in. if it's possible then we will. he clearly wanted to talk to the people a few minutes ago. you know, jonathan, he has always been a master of the narrative. and the day begins with a changing of the guards, firing of one man, bringing in of another. controversial pick to run the cia and now, you know, you show up in san diego prototypes of t...

Concerned that these pictures now, that this story now is taking over the news of the day, shep. >> shepard: whether the plan or not, the effect is there. jeff mason is with us. white house correspondent for the reuters news agency. what comes of this, jeff? is this -- when are decisions made on this? do we know? >> decisions on the wall? >> shepard: yeah. >> yeah, i don't know the time line for that. what i do think is interesting and connected in a way to the tillerson story today is this is a sign that president trump is really focusing on those campaign promises that he made in 2016. and b...

But he has said previously, in general, and this is supported by many border agents down here on the u.s.-mexico border that transparency -- in other words, a certain ability to see through this wall is important. now, four of those have that modicum of transparency. four of them are pretty much solid concrete. you might presume mat president would lean towards one of those through which border agents can see. they say that is important because they need to know who is on the other side of the wall at any point. whether groups are gathering, et cetera. they say that's an important part of secu...