And -- >> did putin ever renege on a personal agreement he made to you? >> no, he did not. >> so behind closed doors, he could be trusted? >> he kept his word in all the deals we made. but here's what i want to say about that -- i think there are two things going on here. first of all, it's clear that the president's threat of force it enter in here prompted him to take -- there was some conversation between mr. lavrov and secretary kerry. he said, is there anything we can do to make this go away. apparently secretary kerry said, "yeah, make the chemical weapons go away," thinking that was the...