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Reproductive freedom every single day. i mean, just the last year in 22 states, there were over 17 antireproductive choice bills in states, and certainly, as we go back to congress, next week we're going to be dealing with bills that, you know, forbid women to get abortions, even if they use their own money under the affordable care act. just let me say, it's really disappointing. i mean, you expect shock jocks like rush limbaugh to say stuff like this, but reverend, governor, former presidential candidate, it is very alarming and it's very threatening. and these ad homanym to women, they are ...

Camp, if you listen to the radio shock jocks, all of them during the republican convention, they like him. he's not invited to conservative groups to week. they like rand paul better. they like ted cruz better. so i never understood how much support he got from what's left of sort of moderate conservative northeastern establish. republican support, how he was going to win the nomination of that party. >> so maybe it is fitting guiliani was out as a surrogate, defending him, he is playing the guiliani role in 28, where all the new york media assumed he would be the nominee, when the voters came...

Most likely to run for president. but a lot of national discussion about it, as the national press sort of picked it up delatedly has been asserting kind of breezily that chris christie was not just going to run, but that he was the likely nominee. that both doesn't seem important to this scandal, but i also am not sure that i believe that. do you think that's true? >> i never believed it. i felt that the republican base loathes him. his positions, it may seem strange to us, but are actually to the left of the current republican party on gun control, on immigration reform. he embraced barack o...

>> and if you listen to right wing media, not fox which is in christie's camp. but if you listen to the, you know, the radio shock jocks and all of them during the republican convention after christie spoke, nay don't like him. he's not invited to conservative groups to speak. they like rand paul better, they like ted cruz better. so i never understood, no matter how much support he got from what's left of sort of moderate conservative northeastern establishment republican support, how he was going to win the nomination of that party. >> so maybe it is fitting that giuliani was out as his surr...

How sort of normal looking he was to most people. that's an integral part of the story. the idea that he does a monstrous thing and therefore we're obligated to only show pictures of him to make him look his most monstrous because we won't be reminded now normal who people knew him thought he was. i read the piece. as joe said it's an excellent piece. it's worth your time. i think this is not glorifying him. >> mika, quickly, it's important, mika, that we also remember what "rolling stones requests has done in the past year, year and a half. they have not been shock jocks, journalistically. wh...