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Crimea. but the out reserves are so vast if ukraine were to tap them they would be the 14th largest oil-producing countries in the world. it would be a strategic gold mine for the our fiend union and nato if they wanted to extend membership to ukraine and those organizations, they would be able to side step russia and have actual energy security into europe because of it. jon: fascinating. we want to thank each of you, judy mirl, fred fleitz, that through shoemaker. they hold two advantages in this david versus goliath battle. >> i never expected this.

Ukraine. fox news contributor, pulitzer prize winning journalist judy miller is with us. and ma shoe shoemaker and fred fleitz. i hope you can hear us now. the russian military apparently is taking a lot of casualties. perhaps more than -- well, than the russians are able to count. they may not even know i'm told how many casualties they have taken. what does that do? just give us a general sense of what that's going to mean for morale and the whole progress of their invasion. >> i think it's going to have a significant effect on morale and i believe it's leading to protests in russia.