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Americans that have been deployed for a decade or more overseas. so it's all part of what we need to do as americans to protect ourselves. the bases themselves they need to be aware. they obviously have increased their security and their observation. but the same thing applies in our communities. all of our communities need to be aware that this is going on. this invitation for radical jihadism particularly among the muslim community that have heretofore been very, very helpful in alerting the police agencies when they are aware or perceived that there may be one amongst them that is going on ...

This woman who is now a secret service agent? >> we've chosen not to use her name. it's not her fault the sheriff dragged her into this. as i understand she left it the sheriff's office three, four years ago, possibly more and the deputy reserve deputies have to qualify every year. so they lost those old records, where are the new ones? >> jim cavanaugh, your reaction to everything you've heard here so far? >> well, you know lawrence as a commander in law enforcement, every commander knows the first time one of your agents officers or deputies is involved in a shooting the first thing you have...

>> well, you know, lawrence, as a commander in law enforcement, every commander knows the first time one of your agents, officers or deputies is involved in a shooting, the first thing you have to produce is their firearms and training records going back for a few years. it's always relevant in a shooting case. we all know that. all departments maintain that. all agents, deputies, police officers routinely qualify with their firearms. they have to. there's a record kept. the firearms instructors keep them. there's not cheating. it should be structured. it's very tight. in the federal service i...

People gathered outside the ferguson police station right now. joined on the phone you by representative emanuel cleaver. congressman cleaver, i know you've posted reward money in the hope of aiding with an arrest in this shooting case. but i want to go to the question of tactics and you're a veteran of the civil rights movement yourself, and i'm wondering about what your reaction is to the idea of being out there at night when we now know that -- at least last night, there was a shooter who was using the protesters as cover to try to kill police officers, and it's just a matter of luck that t...

The doj? >> well i think those of us who are experienced prosecutors in this area have known from the start this would be a very difficult case in which to bring federal charges. you know in rodney king one of the big differences was that there was a videotape that actually showed the violence that actually showed the police officers hitting and kicking and beating rodney king with batons. in this case we didn't have that. and the facts were very much more in dispute. but it's also i think, the case that it is much more likely that there will be charges in the beating case than in a shooting c...