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after a gunman killed ten people in a suspected racially motivated terror attack at a supermarket in the city of buffalo. now on bbc news, nick robinson in conversation with people who influence our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. hello, welcome to political thinking. a relaxed conversation, not a news interrogation with someone who shapes our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. now not since the creation of what used to be called the ministry of fun, rather more boringly these days, it's called the department of digital, culture, media and sport. not si...

welcomed her appointment. not a bit of it. many have reacted as if she is a threat to all they stand for. i doubt that's caused her much of a worry, though, because nadine dorries seems to be up for the fight. sometimes with those outside her party, sometimes with those inside it. she says she's someone who owes absolute undying loyalty to her boss, borisjohnson. and she often, as we may discover, wades in to defend him. nadine dorries, welcome to political thinking. hi, nick. was that a fair introduction? it's fair. ijust wonder, when you hear the things people say about you, and th...

political thinking. a relaxed conversation, not a news interrogation with someone who shapes our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. now not since the creation of what used to be called the ministry of fun, rather more boringly these days, it's called the department of digital, culture, media and sport. not since then have we had a secretary of state who is actually claimed to be able to contribute to the culture. not any more, nadine dorries has written 15 novels. she sold more than 2.5 million copies of them. you might think that means that the people in the world of t...

Not to evict us and telling him she was going to get work and that we would be able to pay the rent arrears. and i remember the tension. i rememberfeeling the tightness in my chest as a six—year—old that we were in a really serious situation, something awful was happening. now, you mentioned your writing, you mentioned your books, there'll be plenty of people listening to this, watching it who don't know your books, don't know thatjames daunt, the man who runs waterstones books, told us that you're one of the queens of saga writing. you sell a lot of books, ebooks, not that many in booksho...

Or follow her head? it sounds cheesy when you read it. i never wrote that, by the way. i would ask you the question i was going to ask, you do get a lot of people sneering at your books, don't you? just by the fact a lot of... i think it's nearly three million now. no, no, that was my question. i mean, the telegraph, when you wrote the first one and said it's the worst novel i've read in ten years. but the person who wrote that review was a member, a catholic member of opus dei. and my first book had a child abusing catholic priest in it. so follow the money. was he patronizing you, too? yeah....