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That says there is absolutely no way this is the case. donald trump is terrible. i think the problem is to ruth's point you have this part in the middle they want to think well of the president. maybe they think voter fraud happens, but why is he talking about this and saying it in such an extreme way? he won, shouldn't he get over it? that's the struggle for the politics of this, why go there. why go there and insist that it's 3 to 5 million. i think that's where he's really gone astray on this. >> people always say, look, you can't argue with it, he won. and it's true, he won. but he lost th...

Violated the hatch act. well, they've got to be able to prove that if two violated that he actually had the intent to influence the investigation, or the election. so the question is not whether or not he influenced the investigation, whether or not he did wrong, but whether or not he actually intended to use his power and use his position in order to influence the investigation, and i just don't think they will be able to prove that. >> gregg: the investigation of comey by the ig is getting all the attention, but there are a couple of other things that republicans wanted that the ig is appare...

So, obviously, something very persuasive was stated in that phone call, and i think most americans support, ultimately, what the president-elect did. >> alan, i spoke with you earlier and i think you're looking at this question this way. you don't want president obama to tie the incoming president's hands by making policy changes in the final weeks, but he is still the president. shouldn't he, if he wants to change policy, shouldn't he be able to do it as he sees fit? >> he can change policy, he can make speeches. what he should not do is change america's policy 40 years at the united nations....

A fortune. because now they are negotiating with you. okay? it is not different than a great baseball player or a great golfer. we want the people that are going -- they are so proud to do it. these people have given up fortunes of income in order to make $1 a year. >> and he an talking about himself there. does he make a point there? you don't want people who aren't successful taking high level positions. >> absolutely. i heard this a lot. social media is a beautiful thing and we get to hear from the voters sometimes. i heard a lot of why shouldn't he appoint successful people for some of the...

Apparently in chestnut hill you wear ascot. you may wear an ascot, michael, i don't know. i know without the wine glass and the ascot -- >> only on weekends. >> it's not sensationalized. i have to focus on duncan lloyd. he did nothing wrong. >> all right. listen, i'm laughing along with some of this, but vandalism was committed here. shouldn't he -- even if i buy into him not breaking the law -- and i'm not sure about that -- but shouldn't he be held to a higher standard? he's an officer of the court. he's a city lawyer. >> michael, what should he do? tackle the guy and thereby commit assault....