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Lot of times we self-segregate ourselves. different ethnic groups and student organizations into multicultural centers. a lot of times we are in 2013 and we want to move ahead, but on college campuses we tend to have -- >> i think a lot of racial resentments are seen at my university have come from effects of affirmative action because white people believe a lot of the minority students are only there because they got in on the basis of ethnicity. >> that's an assumption people shouldn't make. >> it's true, but there remaining race issues at our school due to some of those problems. >> i have ...

And that there might not be the kind of political benefit you might want to expect and think that your party deserves from pushing something like this through. >> that's a very fair point. in the business i'm in, you don't get credit for disaster avoided. you don't get credit for the things you kept from happening bad. look, that's the story of this year politically. there's no question. president obama inherited this terribly deep recession. the republican budget committee paper just admitted that. what we've done is make things better. we've avoided damage. but people don't give you points f...

Avoidance. look, that's the story of this year politically. there's no question. president obama inherited this terribly deep recession. what we've done is make things better. we've avoided damage. but people don't give you points for making things less bad. they have a right to say, make it better. that's true about this bill. mostly what this bill will two will be to prevent abuses, whether of individuals in the consumer area or being making loans they shouldn't make. so i think that's true. on the other hand, i want to give the proper credit. this bill became a stronger bill as we went forw...

Avoided. you don't get credit for the things you kept from happening bad. look, that's the story of this year politically. there's no question. president obama inherited this terribly deep recession. the republican budget committee paper just admitted that. what we've done is make things better. we've avoided damage. but people don't give you points for making things less bad. they have a right to say, make it better. that's true about this bill. mostly what this bill will do ç will be to prevent abuses, whether of individuals in the consumer area or of the whole system in the razzle-dazzle ...

Drain the swamp. does he have a legitimate gripe? or should the political aspirations be kept separate? >> he doesn't have a legitimate political gripe. more importantly i think what he's doing is very irresponsible. what he's suggesting and said in that statement that you read that the reporter read out of breath a minute ago was saying that the leadership of the fbi has is politically motivated and engaging in misconduct. a president of the united states shouldn't make accusations against fbi leadership so casually like that. this is literally the independent watchdogs that watch to make sur...