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Think the president, as we have come to know, says and tweets a lot of cringeworthy things that probably staffers in the white house would just as soon he didn't say. >> where's the line? this is so important because one of the defenses we're hearing is this is just the way he talks. there's a line between just the way he talks and dangerous and perhaps actionable, correct? >> well, exactly. i mean if he makes some kind of a commitment that perhaps he doesn't know the history about and shouldn't make, imagine all kinds of scenarios here where he may have said things that he shouldn't have been...

Perhaps actionable, correct? >> well, exactly. i mean, if he makes some kind of a commitment that perhaps he doesn't know the history about and shouldn't make, imagine all kinds of scenarios here where he may have said things that he shouldn't have been. one of the things that struck me, of course, and has concerned me from the get-go has been how solicitous he's been with president putin of russia. that seems to be, according to postarticle, seems to be born out. >> what about china not even on a secret phone call? he pleaded with china to investigate joe biden from the south lawn. as someone...

The united nations and, of course, former governor of new mexico. governor, thank you for being here. from your perspective, how dangerous is it for the president to not necessarily be in sync with his secretary of state. it seemed as though what mike pompeo had to say some something was much different from the rhetoric we heard from the president. >> unfortunately, this is typical of the president. he doesn't listen to his advisers. this is what worries me now with north korea. kim jong-un wants to deal only with president trump. at the lower level, ambassadorial level, steven begun, the nort...

Reluctance to commit to fully exposing the results of the mueller investigation, which he may not have -- he may not know what's in it yet, is appropriate. and members, you know, and i have been through three confirmations myself, and they like to pin you down and make you make commitments that you really shouldn't make, particularly when you haven't even got the job yet. >> hypotheticals, right? >> exactly. >> director, there's also "the new york times" reporting on president trump's multiple conversations about leaving nato, brexit imploding, the u.s. pulling forces out of syria, the longest...

And straightforward. and i thought, i thought the caveats, for example, his reluctance to commit to fully exposing the results of the mueller investigation, which he may not have -- he may not know what's in it yet, it is appropriate. and members, you know, and i have been through three confirmations myself, and they like to pin you down and make you make commitments that you really shouldn't make, particularly when you haven't even got the job yet. >> hypotheticals, right? >> exactly. >> director, there's also "the new york times" reporting on president trump's multiple conversations about le...