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Good thing. >> so, really, basically, willie, he's ruined it for all ex-presidents. for everybody, michael. >> a moral scourge, just like mika. michael beshalof, thank you so much. we called you late last night after this news broke and thank you for coming here. kind of like willie geist, the host and founder of "way too early." willie and i were commenting that having you and meachem here talking is kind of like hanging out in the hilton in athens, georgia, smoking cigarettes, listening to the giants talk. >> only meachem can find a way not to have fun in athens, georgia. >> i was a witness....

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The best analogy we have for that is another one term president, hecrbert hoover. >> michael, is it a little unfair though not to look at his actions as a former president, how he traveled to all ends of the world, got his hands dirty, got exhausted and put his own heart and sweat into real building homes -- >> that's part of what makes him superior. >> opposed to other presidents you talk about who might be traveling on private planes to comfortable locations, getting paid a great deal of money for speeches. let's not pair it down to one soundby soundbyte. >> and give incomians nuclear weapon...