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That seems to put another check mark in the column of bought and paid for by koch industries. koch industries was the second largest contributor to walker's gubernatorial campaign, giving 43,000, the maximum allowed. the koch backed americans for prosperity funded last week's counter-protests, and its president told "the new york times" that americans for prosperity was working to encourage a union show down, even before walker was inaugurated. and americans for prosperity launched the stand with walker website which encourages every state, every state, to adopt walker's so-called common senso...

Right to negotiate over time, work rules, things like that? >> there are work rules that are very expensive to our cities and schools. and in this fiscal crisis we cannot continue to allow the cities and schools to have no authority over what they ask their employees to do. >> so that's the fight. we know where it stands. over work rules, overtime. other issues of collective bargaining. the republicans will not allow the unions to continue to have those rights to collectively bargain. the democrats who are holding out, are staying outside of the state, insists on the rights of workers to colle...

Did. >> and your thoughts, after running that great biography. you call him the great survivor. we thought the democrat would take the hit. somehow he made the republicans pay for it, the spending problem, the shutdown problem that resulted from it. from it. >> chris, if i could go back to 1995, before the shut down, it was not obvious, not to republicans, not to democrats, not even to clinton himself and the people around him that the shut down would balance in clinton's favor. that was a big question. heading into that, it wasn't obvious. it was only in real time when the polling came in aft...

With the balanced budget but i won't agree to your plans that the clie mack particular show down came. just because it worked that way last time doesn't mean it works that way this time in the president's favor. >> but that's the point i am getting to. seems like jack lew and the president are trying to replicate what happened in ththe the '90s. they take the heat. they go down as the ones that cut the budget, paid the price. >> well, i mean, that's what both sides are trying to do to a certain degree, position themselves as the reasonable ones, the ones doing the public's will. i think john m...

Israeli waters, how does it affect stability? >> you have a couple of things happening here, all at once, look at the map, you have egypt now, which israel no longer feels like they can count on, in a strategic counter weight to iran and that is one thing and the second thing is, is where these ships are headed which is syria and also an iranian ally in the middle east, passing by lebanon which is controlled by hezbollah, right now, and, iranian proxy. so you have all of those things going on and the second issue is, now that you have an iranian presence in the mediterranean it will change the...