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One thing you don't often hear about, the legal battles being fought far from the supreme court. i'm beginning to argue to you tonight at the end of the show that the judges are everything in assessing the trump administration. and not just the big ticket supreme court justices. getting conservatives on the district court, the circuit courts, all around the country. that can have an impact that last a generation, okay. so, let's bring in nan and karen to take us through those legal show downs. next. with only a kite, a house key and a wet hemp string, benjamin franklin captured lightening in a...

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Lisa: let's get right into it, steve. we are going to see show downs particularly with immigration coming up. both with the spending deal on january 19th which congress has to deal with president trump is giving congress until march to specifically address daca. here's the thing. immigration activists have been pushing democrats to use the spending bill as leverage to get something done on immigration. so, how do you see this going down? president trump says i need the wall. it's probably not something democrats are going to want to give on. how do you see this going down? >> well, i do think ...

Thing and donald trump seems to reality to those kind of show downs and you can interpret that as being a good thing or a bad thing. i think for that reason he feels it and i do think we're going to see some vigorous rhetoric on that subject. >> it's personal. >> it's personal. well said. >> thank you both. two of our very best. our thanks for tonight. coming up, another category 5 storm just made landfall in the caribbean and could threaten parts of the u.s. before it's over. the latest from mike seidel. he joins us next. acks to take c. ...of our jeans. it got weird. ahhh! i'm just airing th...

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