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>> laura: an iconic television show -- an iconic television show, and the show runner, shonda rhymes, one of the most brilliant television producers. she went to my alma mater. she's a big democrat. and you were kind of a -- kind of a democrat then as well, right? so you -- did you have a political mind meld when you worked on that show? or was politics never even brought up? >> i'll say this, i've been political since -- the day i was born. any african-american man born black in america is political, particularly if you live over 50, that makes me political by the nature of me being here to s...

>> "grey's anatomy" revealed what a good story teller shonda rhimes is. >> i love you. in a really, really big, pretend to like your taste in music, let you eat the last piece of cheesecake, hold a radio over my head outside your window, unfortunate way that makes me hate you/love you. so pick me. >> people like shonda rips are just the life beloved broadcast networks and in shonda's case, it's fantastic because finally a woman, finally a person of color is doing this. >> anything that opens door for more women and more african-americans and more diverse casting and more diverse crew is a good...

Roger ailes changed cable news and america forever. it has been three years since he was forced out of fox news due to the sexual harassment scandal and now there's a new drama that takes you back to his tenure at fox news. jason blum and eric metcalf is the show runner for "the loudest voice." alex, the idea for this series there was so much attention when ailes was forced out of the job and then he passed away in 2017. have you had enough time to step back and fictionalize this story? >> oh, absolutely. we are looking at, you know, roger and his influence on the

In shonda's case it's fantastic because finally a woman, finally a person of color is doing this. >> anything that opens doors for more women and more african americans and more diverse casting and more diverse crew is a good thing. >> shonda stood up and went, yes, i am going to be a show runner, and i'm going to be a juggernaut. >> 10 bucks says he messes up. >> 10 bucks says he cries. >> total meltdown. >> 50 says he pulls the whole thing off. >> that's one of us down there. the first one of us. where's your loyalty? >> above and beyond the cultural aspect, which is important and great, we ...

Abc did decide she was going to cancel roseanne, i think it was a good business move ultimately. >> is this an example of trump tv backfiring? >> i would say, since he said, it's about us, you can now say, okay. it was about you. one of the things that is associated with trump is, let's get rid of political correctness. so, he opened that door. he opened the door. >> thank you and god bless america. thank you. up next, tv's original troublemaker. >> the only people nowadays that can afford live-in help are rich people and jews. >> we blew it up and ripped it to shreds. >> and show runner. >>...