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Note one difference the way they get fired. hope hicks to h.r. mcmaster, noise the president with his presentations and the like, to a guy like jim mattis, who is no shrinking violet. but you never hear from him publicly. he does all of his work privately. that's what the president prefers. >> here is a list of who he is considering firing next. david shulkin secretary of veteran affairs. jeff sessions, as we know. h.r. mcmaster. john kelly, who as we know has been in the cross-hairs. ryan zinke. who forced him to have the last cabinet? who speaks for those? >> exactly. item kael they begin fi...

That's that the secretary of state has to have a wonderful relationship with the president to be honest with you. all power is sort of derivative and if people smell on you, so to speak, like with rex, that there is distance between the secretary of state and the president, it affects his ability to do his job. >> they don't believe what he's saying, right? >> they don't. they don't think he has got the direct connection to the president and so it is sort of a nice meeting to have, but it is not like you're talking to the boss. everyone will know that pompeo has a great rapport. he's no shrink...

>> bill, a lot to talk about. >> welcome to washington. >> thank you, we love it here. >> we've been showing rupert murdoch's memos to donald trump. murdoch a man that trump has always had great respect for and the "new york post" going out there talking about his half cocked ideas. yesterday the hidlieadline said "help us." it reminded me as something as iconic as "ford to new york, drop dead." it was one of those if this debate turns, it's -- the "new york post" for people that know donald trump will be one of the reasons why and then you have -- as we've said, ralph peters is not a shrinkin...

Nikki haley has been no shrinking violet on russia's influence in syria. mike pence over the course of the last year or so has been very vocal about his concern what russian incursions mean for the ukraine. it's not just a question of the trump administration. it really comes down to him as an individual. >> michael, in some circles this becomes a question of competence, no? >> it's a question of come p/e 2e7bs, a questi -- competence, a question of loyalty. we are seeing states and cities going back to paper ballots to protect the sanctity of our balance. we see grappling with the disinformat...

And making upwards of $90,000 a year. >> she put your feet to the fire. make sure you get the job done and move on. >> she was no pushover. >> no pushover. >> she stood the up for herselves. >> right. >> inside of the walls of the nice home ellen's rank was near the bottom. >> he became condescending, controlling where i could go, who i could see. >> at home, mike made the rules and ellen obeyed them. you had a significant executive job at a big company. >> yes. >> so you are not some little shrinking violet whose home cowering under her husband's direction. >> when it came to being home and o...