during a government shut down ace under it? that s my understanding. we need to be careful about what would happen in the shut down and what wouldn t happen in a shut down. when it comes to essential services like defense of our country we re not going to shut that down. that is not going to happen. i hope the shut down doesn t happen, i don t think anyone wins with a shut down. if it does happen i want to make it clear some people in congress think a shut down would be a good thing to happen. i think congress should feel the pain. we should have have a vote on this so congress doesn t get paid during the shut down. martha: a lot of these agencies were pre funded and they continued to operate during the last shut down. because we don t have any budget for 2011 at all a lot of things what would automatically shut down? what would we all notice instantly if it happens. first of all you re right it s different than 95. i was -pbt here in 95. some appropriation bills have been passed