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Parts of the fence that actually do work and have been proven to stop illegal immigrants from coming into the united states and democrats and republicans have agreed on that. and parts of those fences are actually in disrepair right now. so we'll spend some money to repair that as well. and we'll do allof that and al you have to do is say what you said you were going to do on dreamers and on daca, you know, a year ago why can't that be a grand bargain, david, where everybody wins >> so it can be. i just have this hunch, i could be wrong, i could be too optimistic, that rather than take the cou...

Negotiating leverage, and the democrats can just sit by and watch this spin for a certain period of time while the effects of the shutdown land at his feet. and as you noted, this is not a new problem. during his business career, he was a serial bankruptcy artist, he was routinely taken to the cleaners by other deal makers who were more informed, more patient, and more mature than he is, and those sort of things have come home to roost in this negotiation. >> and no one in the history of american government shutdowns has gotten the language of the situation worse than donald trump. we saw him ...

Negotiating leverage, and the democrats can just sit by and watch this spin for a certain period of time while the effects of the shutdown land at his feet. and as you noted, this is not a new problem. during his business career, he was a serial bankruptcy artist, he was routinely taken to the cleaners by other deal makers who were more informed, more patient, and more mature than he is, and those sort of things have come home to roost in this negotiation. >> and no one in the history of american government shutdowns has gotten the language of the situation worse than donald trump. we saw him ...